John Grogan's long term aspirations for the pub industry genuinely take into account the interests of individual licensees. He is very well informed and therein lies the weakness in the lie of the status quo of the industry. People like John Grogan only get to see the industry through a thick veil of pubco poodledom. He is an honourable man who has acted properly within the framework of the information available to him. Like RICS surveyors. etc...