Someone asked "Isn't what he* announced today everything people have been asking for?"

*Farage

OPPORTUNISM IS THE PROBLEM

Well, what was announced today MIGHT be everything people have been asking for and THAT is the point. It's performative and totally unserious.

John, I appreciate the question: Britain doesn't take pubs seriously

What Reform and Farage have put out on pubs is late, opportunistic, and unserious. It’s another five-point plan bolted on after watching other politicians and newspapers do the same thing an, I'd be prepared to bet on this: looking at conversations on potential solutions between publicans online - they have no plausible grasp of how to implement it either. Nor does ANY party. THAT is my problem...

WE DO NOT TAKE PUBS SERIOUSLY IF WE DID WE WOULD NOT HAVE A PERMANENT PUBS CRISIS. People log into Protect Pubs and elsewhere just to confirm everything is as DIRE as groundhog day always is then off they go, reassured there is no hope, and make a cup of tea and watch riots on TV.

And that’s exactly the problem: Britain does not take pubs seriously. We bleat about them sentimentally while presiding over their destruction. CAMRA was founded in 1971. The book The Death of the English Pub was published in 1973. This conversation has been running for MORE THAN 50 YEARS. Nothing has structurally changed to stop closures. If anything, they are accelerating. The last Budget didn’t just continue a permanent pubs crisis – it turned it into an existential one.

I’ve spent 20 years campaigning to get pubs recognised for their social value. It’s left me broke, sidelined, mocked, called wanker, woke, unrealistic, a fantasist, a narcissist, even a conspiracy theorist by beer writers and, even, J Mark Dodds really hates pubs he is a proper #unt by the recently deceased widely respected and much loved Old Mudgie FFS. I’ve been blocked by various beer writers I've asked would you be interested to know more about why pubs are closing? Standard procedure: Block 'the self entitled Boomer'. Hounded, and ignored, it is PATHETIC. Just as licensees and their fate are ignored every day. This isn’t ego; it’s about the fact that the means of saving pubs in this country are miserably - woefully ineffective.

CAMRA_Official hasn’t managed to fix it. Protect Pubs was founded by CAMRA members to try to stimulate CAMRA to get its house in order at Official level THAT didn't work. Campaign for Campaign For Pubs broke away and set up to try. Six years later, here we are again PUBS are still closing everywhere AND now Independent Pub Alliance - IPA has set up...

We don’t even collect basic national data on how many communities have lost their last pub. That alone tells you how unserious this country is about the issue.

So when Reform turn up with a “plan for pubs”, it isn’t leadership – it’s performance. Same with the Telegraph’s “save the pubs”, the Mirror’s “save the pubs”, the Mail’s “save the pubs”. None of them are designed to save pubs. They’re designed to sell papers, harvest clicks, and win votes. It’s all theatre.
And here’s the most depressing part: every time I’ve asked people to help build something serious – not slogans, but structures – the answer is always “keep going”. Nobody ever gets off their arse to help. I understand why - I was a licensee, I know how hard life is - but let’s not pretend this is working.
This isn’t left or right. It’s not about parties. It’s about reality. Pubs are not being saved in meaningful numbers. The whole framework for doing so is failing. And if you say that out loud, you get shouted down.

That’s why we should be sceptical of Farage’s 'plan'. Not because it’s wrong in detail (they nicked it, they all do), but because it isn’t serious. They treat pubs like a prop in a culture war, not like the national social infrastructure they actually are.

And until Britain grows up and takes pubs seriously, pubs will keep disappearing.

Here’s the thing: Anyone doing basic homework on the pubs crisis hits a wall almost immediately:
Try finding a definitive answer to how many pubs have closed in the 53 years since CAMRA was founded in 1971. You can’t. You’ll find fragments, headlines, partial datasets, and competing definitions - but not a single, authoritative, continuously maintained, site-by-site record that a serious country would have.

Try finding out: 

How many communities have no pub at all

How many villages that had a pub now have none

How many housing estates lost theirs

How many pubs were sold into the hands of the “regulated pubcos” over time, and when, and in what volumes

A clear, agreed timeline linking ownership change → policy change → closure patterns → conversion to alternative use

Then try finding it set out plainly in one place - not as scattered academic papers with limited reach, not as vague industry commentary, not as pub nostalgia publishing - but as an evidenced public account of what happened to a major part of Britain’s civic infrastructure.

You can’t. No one can. NO ONE. And that is the evidence: The absence of evidence IS THE EVIDENCE.

Because this is what it happens when a country doesn’t take something seriously: it doesn’t measure it properly. It doesn’t track it. It doesn’t audit it. It doesn’t treat it as infrastructure with consequential social consequences. It treats it like leisure - something to sentimentalise, not something to govern. Oh another pub closed. They should have used it if they didn't want to use it. IT IS PATHETIC.
So when Farage and Reform UK turn up with a “plan for pubs”, it lands inside a vacuum that Britain itself created: we don’t have the shared facts because we never built the factual apparatus. The conversation stays infantilised - slogans, quick fixes, performative announcements - because nobody has done the grown-up work of establishing the baseline reality.

And into that vacuum, the pubcos have owned the narrative for decades.

A “pub company” is supposed to invest in pubs, develop them, run them well, train people, build trade. What the big financialised operators actually did was the opposite: they made other people carry the operational risk, loaded cost and complexity onto tenants, pushed simplistic “food-led” fixes without building the capability to deliver them, and then used failure - often engineered by the structure - as justification for disposal and alternative use. They didn’t organise renewal at scale. They organised churn.

Meanwhile, the human cost is written all over the country, even if the datasets aren’t: countless publicans bankrupted, families broken, communities left without a convening space, the state picking up the tab elsewhere — and we still refuse to connect the dots between pub loss and social harm. We talk about polarisation and loneliness as if they appeared out of nowhere, while we quietly remove one of the only mixed, cross-class, intergenerational spaces people had.

And the institutional proof that nobody takes this seriously is right there too: pubs are split across multiple government silos — licensing, planning, business rates, health, communities, heritage — with no single accountable steward. No national audit of “publess” communities. No authoritative long-run dataset that combines closures, conversions, ownership, and social impact. It’s unconscionable.
So when someone says, “Isn’t this what everyone wants?” No. It’s theatrical, it's drama. It’s clickbait politics. It’s a five-point plan dropped into a mess that has been allowed to fester for half a century without proper measurement, governance, or accountability.

I’ll round off with the blunt truth: This is, I don't know how to describe it, this is how vulture capitalism wins all the time, because it has the power, it has the narrative, it has the story, the victor wins all the time, the victims lose all the time, the victims are blamed all the time, the countless thousands of publicans have been put out of business, the families bankrupted, made homeless, the state picking up the tab, communities bereft, not having anywhere to convene anymore.

This is all the social harm and damage it's been doing to the country. Look how polarised the country is. The people who have promoted this neoliberal mind virus infected reality are the ones who cry about it most. The hypocrisy is mind-boggling. Politicians, people who work in government, people who work at business innovation and skills, people who work at Department of Trade. We've got five different departments responsible for pubs FFS. Britain doesn't take pubs seriously.

And DO NOT MENTION BREWING. THAT is another one.

Ask yourselves this question. Ask yourself why PUBS AND BEER are separate conversations at every level WHY are two things absolutely INSEPARABLE always kept separate when it comes to talking about pubs. Eh. Ask yourself that EVERYONE?

It's mind-blowing. It's so that I don't know what else to say.

The Budget and The Public House

The Budget and The Public House

THE DEATH OF THE ENGLISH PUB is coming to pass... my efforts over the years to bring this to wide attention have got me branded a popular conspiracy theorist, a Cassandra, a fantasist, a narcissist and a man with a messiah complex; blocked online by pubcos, pub sector big-wigs, beer writers and pubco shills saying the problem is the smoking ban ... it's tedious when telling the truth makes one a whistleblower

 
There cannot be a more urgent obvious moment for CAMRA and Campaign For Pubs to get together and bang the drums for pubs, pints and people everywhere... or for the nation to get behind a movement for Saving Britain's Pubs...

 
I've attached a lot of images to this post - stuff from the last two decades of campaigning to bring the perilous position of the pub sector to public notice - The underlying problem with thousands of pubs is they're financially precarious businesses due to aggressive Rentierism in most parts of the pub sector, tied and free of tie, and the tied sector is plagued in addition by aggressive profiteering on suffocatingly restrictive supply chains concocted by hedge and private equity backed pubco men meddling in the middle doubling the wholesale supply price which together means independent brewers can't sell their beers into pubs - all over the UK - and thousands of pubs make barely enough profit under normal trading conditions - just enough not to go bust - and any kind of financial shock that's not possible to plan for causes businesses to break, collapse, fail, go snap... and this budget? Well, What can one say? THIS is a SHOCK NO ONE COULD PREDICT - 

and I reckon it's because politicians don't understand the reality... and that is because the people on the ground - tens of thousands of regular publicans have absolutely no voice - and the people at the top hear totally distorted story of what is really happening, and the bits and pieces they do hear coming in under the official radar - basically thousands of publicans working and living in conditions of indentured slavery so abusive, brutal, callous, cynical, extreme, so feudal, for any business scenario in the 21st century - they simply don't believe it's true. Even when the signs are right in front of them. It's MUCH easier to believe the clean suited representatives of the Great British Pubco Scam - the CEO of the British Beer and Pub Association and all the other 'trade bodies' than it is to open up to the dreadful truth: The Public House, we so love and cherish where real ale has been enjoyed with friends, neighbours and travellers alike alongside each other in good fellowship for centuries... is a disgusting backwater of terrible business practices and there must be some money to be taken in taxing the sector a bit more ... and the rest is down to blundering ignorance about what is happening about business rates from a Valuation Office Agency that's swayed by corrupt influence of big corporate interests, hopelessly ill informed about the pub sector as well, inadequately staffed and underfunded ...
There has never in the long history of The Public House been anything close to the impending catastrophe of the impact of this budget - totally artificially created - it's as if Reeves and Starmer decided to legislate The Pub out of existence. The budget has pushed the pub sector into a historically unprecedented crisis which even the day before was unimaginable.

But in a sense it's not surprising - it's clear to me this is a consequence of decades of the #GreatBritishPubcoScam - as discussed by me a thousand times over the last 15 years or so...
When it comes to Pubs, Pints and People successive governments prove themselves to be completely incompetent. This egregious debacle is just the peak of decades of UkGovplc listening to big business over the lived experience and testament of everyday small business publicans all over the country.
Labour's blindfolded view seems to have been to try and get pubs right by applying various tweaks to taxes to raise more revenue whilst trying to keep the burden fair for pubs overall... And getting the balancing act comprehensively wrong...

Considering the situation is so catastrophic it's difficult to believe there's anyway Reeves knew the consequences would be so severe. It's one of 2 things:

It's deliberately intended, because there's a hidden agenda to wipe out pubs everywhere all over the country without legislation explicitly designed to do that. That would be very unpopular so let's do it in a subtle way that's not obvious... And dodge the bullets of public opprobrium as the national estate gets wound up by administrators. Not very likely scenario even for this lot
Government has been informed by totally the wrong side: freeholders and trade bodies purportedly representing pubs and publicans while presenting big corporate agendas one of which is to hide how much extraction and indentured labour there is in the the pub sector, a 21st century business backwater of bullying feudal behaviour that takes all profit from pubs and transfers it to offshore bank accounts. This supposes pubs experience robust trading and sustainable income while a glance at the fabric of the national pub estate shows a chronic lack of maintenance and upkeep in the state of most pub buildings and services ...

There's no excuse.

Without a rapid response embarrassment and row back from the combined costs of this budget being applied to the pub sector THOUSANDS of pub businesses will go to the wall in the next 2 years.
There's no doubt about this.

Expect marches and joining up with Farmers ... Because without the row back there's nothing left to do but protest on the streets of Westminster or wait and go bankrupt.

The knock on impact to the UK economy of thousands of pubs closing as a whole, to collapsing supply chains, social services, utilities, transport, education, community fabric and mental health, is incalculable.

It's dark ages stuff

The #GreatBritishPubcoScam - a Post Office Scandal times ten.

The Pubs Crisis: A National Scandal in Plain Sight

All over the country, pubs have been — and continue to be — lost in ever-increasing numbers. The root cause is not consumer behaviour or cultural change, but the deliberate, irresponsible management of the national pub estate by private equity-owned pub companies.

The British Queen, 34 Picton Street, Camberwell, SE5. now a block of flats

These companies devolve all responsibility for the operation, upkeep, and maintenance of their properties to tenants, lessees, and publicans. These publicans — self-employed entrepreneurs in all but name — are then held entirely responsible for maintaining buildings they do not own. They are expected to invest in repairs, modernise facilities, and deliver a level of service and hospitality that meets 21st-century expectations, all while operating on a knife-edge of financial viability.

Pubcos inflate property values, control the narrative, and exploit the asymmetry of information to extract unsustainable rents. The result is that tenants are routinely charged more than is feasible for the property — often for premises in a poor state of repair. Meanwhile, the private equity firms that own these pubs generate their return on investment through rent extraction and a second major revenue stream: the supply tie.

Under the tied model, tenants are forced to buy beer — and often wine, spirits, soft drinks, and even cleaning products — exclusively through the freeholder’s supply chain. The pub companies, with their enormous buying power, are able to negotiate ultra-low wholesale prices from brewers and producers. But instead of passing on these savings, they apply profiteering markups, charging tenants far above market rates.

This two-pronged stranglehold — inflated rent and inflated beer prices — allows pub companies to control every aspect of a tenant's business, while extracting the maximum possible income. It is a rigged system, designed to funnel money upwards while burdening the individual publican with all the risk and none of the support.

The consequences are everywhere: run-down, under-invested pubs with limited beer choice, deteriorating buildings, and exhausted licensees. People don’t visit pubs that feel unloved, unwelcoming, or unviable — and closures follow. Meanwhile, small independent brewers are excluded from vast swathes of the market, locked out by the beer tie and shut out of the managed estates of large pub chains.

At every level, consumers lose out — on quality, on choice, on value. Only a dwindling number of truly independent pubs remain: those owned outright by individuals or small pub groups not beholden to distant shareholders. The exact number of such pubs isn’t easily accessible, which itself is telling. But what is certain is that this situation — the result of decades of extractive business models — has left many communities without any pub at all.

These are often working-class communities: housing estates, former mining villages, rural parishes, and suburban peripheries. Places where the pub was once the heart of the neighbourhood. With their closure comes a loss of social connection, secular space, and local identity. The impacts on mental health, social cohesion, and community resilience are real — and worsening.

This is the pubs crisis. And it is not accidental. It is the logical outcome of a broken market, a captured regulatory environment, and a political failure to recognise the scale of the harm being done to one of Britain’s most vital social institutions.

The avalanche of closed pubs being converted to other use, all over the country is evidence of this state of affairs and no ONE is doing ANYTHING about it, except wringing hands.

Oh. The Plunkett Foundation. Mustn't forget about column inch worthy saved, all over the country, community owned pubs. Let's tot up the figures there eh? The community pubs' movement has been going since 2012 - though a few pubs had been bought by groups of locals before amatuer hour David Cameron's ideas for Big Society came into place with the Localism Act.

Since 2010 around 10,000 pubs have closed forever. Since then around 200 have been saved by their community. Genuine Bravo and PROPS to the Community Pub Movement but at the same time BOO to the miserably tiny scale of success in the face of the utterly risible failure of the pub sector - a supposedly competitive market producing the best possible outcomes for the consumer - to improve prospects for the future of the world's original social network: The British public house

No wonder the pubs crisis is accompanied by an epidemic of isolation in communities and loneliness among all age groups.

If we act as communities, it might be just enough, just in time

The Pub, Britain's unique secular social construct, admired and envied from afar as the world's original social network, is under existential threat. All over the UK closed and dying pubs are the consequence of late stage rentierism gone mad: All over Britain closed, boarded up formerly tied lease freehold pubs are on the property market 'suitable for alternative use'. EVERYWHERE there's a run down closed pub there's a community around it who wish THAT pub was a Brilliant Local they could be proud to call THEIR PUB. But they, local communities, gradually stopped using 'their pub' after pubcos bought most of Britain's public house stock during the 1990's and financialised the life out of bricks and mortar and aggressively profiteered publicans they rented out more than half the national pub estate to as 'tied leases' which in effect are contracts to indentured servitude.

The parlous, perilous state of the nation's pubs is wholly down to the #GreatBritishPubcoScam - general pressures on all retail businesses that have decimated high streets have impacted pubs of course, but the underlying weakness of tied pubs is they don't make profits because the freeholders extract as much as possible through manipulation of rental values and by grotesquely overcharging for beer and other product supplies their tenants are obliged to buy through the 'tied supply contract' at, generally, around 40% over open market pricing.

☝ THIS ☝ pernicious overhead of the hidden TIED supply contract is why tied pubs in particular are extremely vulnerable to outside financial shock like rapidly rising business rates, and mandatory wage increases [which most good employers want to pay but struggle to because of the rentier sitting on their back].

HOWEVER this means that all over the UK are distressed assets, detritus of the disastrous tied pubco model of vulture capitalism that's gripped Britain's pubs for the last 35 years ... are available to be bought, brought back into use and made into fantastic, proper, bustling, busy, financially sustainable Locals again.

All that's needed to make this happen is a people's pub company, call it a national trust for pubs if you like, funded by public subscription, of the people, by the people, FOR The People to bring pubs into the commons and back to life at the heart of communities, all over Britain. AGAIN.

WHY *CHANGE* DOESN'T HAPPEN

WHY *CHANGE* DOESN'T HAPPEN 

Or: Why we end up consulting, or working for organisations and institutions that research, on how change COULD or SHOULD happen rather than MAKING CHANGE HAPPEN

The simple truth is that everyone who's not got a private income because they're from a super rich background has to earn an income to pay the rent. Having a job to pay the rent means by and large that you are fully occupied not doing what you want to do to begin to be part of the change in anything.

Brian Eno articulated this during a Basic Income UK meet-up at St Clements Church Kings Square, London, in December 2015.

The Future is HERE, and NOW is the time to design it for ourselves

It's not complicated really. Humanity needs to wake up and demand the utopia all humans REALLY WANT but are always pushed away from by the ludicrous hubris of 'our leaders', who almost exclusively are severely emotionally damaged, immature, intellectually compromised, misogynist men imbued with a toddler's lust for grabbing all the sweeties for themselves.

They are few. We are many. The many can quickly make the few irrelevant if only we act directly, non violently, strategically, within the law, in ways that enable people to come together to collaborate... Joyously, with a vision of a different future, from the grass roots, where no one is left behind. 

The Future of Pubs could provide a route to the future of all of us.

UPDATE on The Podcast from The Pub #AllForTheLoveOfPubs

Curating the story of the slow, dreadful, deliberate, Death of The Pub. A tragedy of the commons. 

There's me and Robert, the licensees who kick started south east London's pub revolution in December 1995 when we opened The Sun and Doves and DOGSTAR, at either end of notorious, dangerous, 'Front Line' Coldharbour Lane within a week of each other. Together, without really being aware of it, we were about to change the social dynamic of south east London forever. We met at Camberwell Magistrates' court getting our licence transfers and our eyes met across the crowds of a court waiting room that echoed with teeming offlicence and corner shop owners shouting and hollering trying to make sense out of impenetrably confusing court lists ... our paths took parallel, often exruciating, turns for much of the next decade and more as we fought off pure greed of our Great British tied pubco Rentier spiv freeholders... 

 

That makes us the ones who've both been through the Pubco grinder; then there's John, an investigative journalist who's written about predatory development of pubs, and Liam who spent 15 years fighting to save an Ex-Tied pubco pub in SE London and succeeded, it's now being refurbished and will reopen as a Freehold Free of Tie operated by an experienced licensee with a small pub group of his own, in a year or so. Liam has great stories to tell about the toture of the planning system, and how to make it better. 

We also have Sarah, who's a musician singer songwriter who started gigging in pubs 30 odd years ago and has seen the #GreatBritishPubcoScam consume several of her all time favourite pubs that have been demolished, converted or totally homogenised into big business pubco outlets like Fuller's managed etc.

We've got Danny, a documentary filmmaker (Micropubs the New Local) helping with technical and production support, and a few other people are offering voluntary support too... We've got a venue to do the recordings from- The Earl of Derby SE14 - hosting the Podcast from the Pub

A lot of people, from all walks of life, are showing interest in joining the conversation. Everywhere we go we meet people whose lives and loves have been really badly impacted by the social harm these appalling tied pubcos have done while ransacking our built environment, our sense of place, the foundations of our secular culture - from all angles. They all want to tell wonderful stories of encounters, extraordinary events, wonderful meetings of minds, friends made in pubs and how without pubs these can NEVER happen. What unites all of is our concern and LOVE for well run, proper brilliant local pubs and our desire to get them back. And we all know it can be done. 

We're as NERVOUS as can be about getting it right, we're going to start doing some trial recordings until we get comfortable with the format of presentation and order of episodes and look and sound and stuff to make sure it all comes across professionally and confidently and purposefully when we go live.

SO THERE'S STILL WORK TO DO.

All this so far is totally shoe-leather and boot-laces and personally I'm totally broke because of what's happened to me over the past 13 years since I was evicted from The Sun and Doves when I vowed never to rest until we see the back of the pubcos and their shitty disgusting Rentier capitalism bullying business model that RUINS PEOPLE'S LIVES, erodes community everywhere and is destroying a massive significant irreplaceable vital part of British history. The Pub.

YOU CAN HELP US.

If anyone reading this has a small amount of money you'd be prepared to donate weekly / monthly, I mean anything from a quid to a million, we'd be incredibly grateful for the support. I'm 65 and next week I’m starting as a home delivery driver for Sainsbury's. I do need the exercise mind. 

We've invested around £500 so far in broadcast equipment, mics, website url fees and bottom line basics and so on... We need to be on top of all social media accounts, a fully working, good looking and accessible website, buying in some admin skills, and marketing support, and, really, we need to be able to pay for costs or editing and production initially rather than depending on goodwill...

We're determined to make the podcast reach as many people as possible, all over the UK and the world where we KNOW these stories have to be told and they will be received with interest everywhere they're heard... #AllForTheLoveOfPubs is going to be where everyone who LOVE pubs are invited to come and contribute to a growing national conversation about The Future of Pubs and the solution to the pubs crisis. 

THE TRUTH IS A POWERFUL TOOL.

We'll tell the truth, honest, well informed, fact checked and verified. And there is a LOT of truth to tell. LOTS of people we've been talking to are saying #GreatBritishPubcoScam is very like the Post Office Scandal. Unbelievable, simple, shocking, scandalous, nasty, malevolent, greedy, horrific, cruel, bullying abuse of corporate power over individuals who have no voice and are completely ignored. The conversations will be tough, the stories uplifting, sad, joyous, emotional, depressing, but all rounded up with passion, love, and full of hope for the future of pubs because we all really know at heart that we can make great change happen if only we have a common cause we can, all of us, together can rally around.

Since the #CrookedHouse in Himley, and the inspiring way real people's outrage has welled up into an amazing online community of support for making sure it's reborn we reckon the palpable wave of pent up anger there is about the private equity ram raid on OUR pubs - everywehere - has at last been spilling out across the country. It's very encouraging to see people getting so vocal in their concerns about OUR PUBS.

The message below is from a German friend who's figured out from afar more about why British Pubs are on death's door and how the hedge funded blight of the #GreatBritishPubcoScam is responsible for much of the devastation than do millions of people here. 

"Well in times like these with huge parts of the UK public been fucked by the government the whole pub story is a great analogy for the ordinary man suffering. So it should attract large audiences."

IF YOU'D SUPPORT US WITH A REGULAR REPEAT OR ONE OFF DONATION TO HELP US BUILD FOUNDATIONS WE'LL FIND WAYS TO THANK YOU - 

☝☝☝ This ☝☝☝ link is where to donate to The People's Pub Partnership Donorbox is our means of collecting money. It was set up for PPP ahead of a community share issue which was headed off when the owners of a pub got permission for full change of use when their appeal to overturn the unanimous rejection of their application at planning committee was granted in full by the Planning Inspectorate. An all too common shocking turn of injustice. The hundreds of objectors included licensees of other local pubs who argued that this pub was a vital asset, an integral part of the local area's vibrant social scene, essential to its continuing success. Anyway that charade will be one of our episodes and is another experience of the egregious lack of protecton for Britain's pubs that lay behind the reasoning for starting up the podcast: Outrageous planning decisions like this one HAVE to be made totally unacceptable and a lot of that is dependent on planners and people who love pubs eveywhere fully understanding what is going on in plain sight all around us.