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James Jenkinson

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A meeting is being arranged for Enterprise tenants in the South Manchester/Cheshire area. This will be an informal meeting where like minded tenants can share experiences and perhaps realise they are not alone. Far from it. There are 15 people already signed up to attend and believe me, they all tell a familiar story. Please feel free to contact me from whatever area you are from and maybe we can arrange a meeting closer to you. Any Punch Lessees interested in a similar event themselves can also get in touch. No personal details will be passed on to anyone, not even other attendees. James jenkinson offpub@gmail.com

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Gilbert Bank 10/12/2008 00:31:30

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Curiously there are 15 views at this time and 15 attendees. Don't be afraid. Anything you have to fear you already know about. James Jenkinson?

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Mark Dodds 10/12/2008 00:38:34

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HOW about getting in touch with Fair Pint and seeing if there's a way of working together / contributing to the end of the tie?

www.fairpint.org.uk

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James Jenkinson 10/12/2008 18:01:23

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Good to see a few have viewed the thread. If you are with Enterprise and are at all worried about your financial situation and the viability of your business I urge you to contact us as soon as possible. If you or your partner are working to support your business, please contact us. If you are in danger of losing your home or other asset, please contact us. If you struggle to pay your direct debit on a regular basis, please,

please, get in touch. These are scenarios we are already discussing. You are not alone.

James Jenkinson offpub@gmail.com

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Liam Thomas 10/12/2008 20:35:58

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James, i just Private messaged u on here

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James Jenkinson 11/12/2008 10:22:48

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I have responded Liam, thank you. There is a little momentum building here and I urge all to contact me, whatever your area. My aim here is to get everybody networking and talking. The pubcos are terrified of us talking to each other. offpub@gmail.com James

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James Jenkinson 11/12/2008 10:33:55

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Duplicate post.

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James Jenkinson 13/12/2008 08:36:29

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I have received 7 positive replies about a meeting. I see arranging it before xmas as perhaps problematic. Not for me. I have handed my notice in and in doing so have probably established a world record for short tenure. These people are blood suckers. I intend to make it my mission to ensure that people are protected from the immoral, amoral, pernicious way that these business are run. It might be said that it is easy for me to talk as I only had a TAW and can walk away relatively easy. What I would say in reply to that is if your life is so tied to your business that all you achieve is funding the pubcos in order to keep your doors open you are not in business. You are in penury. My own situation, a TAW, means I will be gone before xmas. I have done the sums and with the torrent of last minute charges from T&C I will probably make enough to pay Enterprise. That is not acceptable to me. cont

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James Jenkinson 13/12/2008 08:50:17

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...That is not business. How many of you can look in the mirror and honestly say your business is working? My conversations with in the trade suggest that Mr Allmans £100k Johnny's are very thin on the ground. I am afraid that there is only one way to change this situation. That is to network with each other and gain strength in numbers. Only with unity will any change take place. With this unity there has to be direct action. There is no other way to dent the armour of these animals other than starving them of the lifeblood of cash flow. I am of course talking revolution. I am not talking coup d'etat either. There must be blood. As we are all being slowly bled to death anyway it may prove to be most cathartic. cont

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James Jenkinson 13/12/2008 09:03:19

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cont.....We have read on these pages the dramatic collapse in share price of the big two. I do not understand how the management of these companies survive. Their performance is nothing less than disastrous. Change is possible in our industry but we must take action to remove the heads from the serpents. They have to go. It is clear they do not accept there are problems within their companies which suggests two things. They are either oblivious to the plight of the people who pay their wages or they intend to bleed their estates dry as they feather their nests and walk away leaving the industry in tatters. Whichever it is why are resignations not demanded by the city as they are when M&S sells half a dozen fewer knickers?

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James Jenkinson 13/12/2008 09:15:52

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cont......In my month long dealings with EI, I am staggered at the level of incompetence I have encountered. Orders delivered on the wrong day, orders cancelled and totally random orders delivered. No orders sent as a form of blackmail.WTF!!! Do you want me to sell your overpriced goods or do you just want me to swap my TAW for the RPA and six months notice? Not one conversation with the BDM has been about building OUR business. There is no our business. They are not interested in the slightest about market share or their pricing would be totally different and we would have more customers in our pubs. My BDM's mission has solely been concerned with revenue pulling. That revenue has to be cut off. If it is the shareholders will take notice and the heads will roll. cont
cont.... What I am trying to say is that EI actually have very few customers. I estimate that number to be about 7,000. I suggest that a lot of those customers are not happy with the services provided by EI. The customers must learn how to complain. It is time to take action that will get the attention of the Company and the City. A good start would be for the whole estate to cancel ALL DD and make NO payment by card. I hear you say what about the £1,200 fee? The banks have had their comeuppance with unfair fees and so will EI. I suggest that payment by cheque on a daily basis would be admirable. It would certainly lead to full employment for the witches in credit control. Counter invoice for any charges levied. Get the message? Bury them in paper. Do not speak to your BDM on the phone. Write to him and demand a reply in writing. 60 letters a day demanding 60 replies will keep most BDMs quite busy. 100 tenants grouping together and saying no more will send a big message to the city. Little things can cause big problems. Or do nothing and wait for the inevitable. James Jenkinson offpub@gmail.com


Excellent posts James Jenkinson.


I have an inkling that Ted Tuppen would not see eye to eye with you.

Simon Townsend implied (in fact all he proved is how little he knows about EI's supply chain) at the BEC inquiry that there is no earthly reason why tenants should ever buy out of tie because Enterprise's wide, unrivalled portfolio of beers are available 24/24 7/7 from depots conveniently placed all over the country. If they were not able to do next day delivery (be assured, Simon and Ted, if you are reading these threads, as I'm sure you are) the tenant, customer, lessee, licensee, publican fool, sap, sop, loser, idiot, milk cow, lamb to the slaughter, cannon fodder, aphid, whatever comes to mind, can always just go to the depot to pick the beer up themselves.

Oh yes. Only a total prat with a public school education could come out with such clap trap nonsense like that. Just imagine Si-si and Teddy pulling up to the brewery depot and loading their Beemers or Mercs with eight or ten 11 gallon kegs of beer and some 24 cases (they'd be sure to buy bottled beers at their wholesale price of £23.70 plus vat wouldn't they? And then walk straight past the same beer in Sainsburys on offer at less than half the price).

Think they'd get their Loakes scuffed and their nails dirty don't you?

And can you imagine the language when they find the scratches on the paintwork and the holes in the rubber boot lining and the knackered back seats? Oh no of course - all lessees have all day long in which to spend their time collecting beer from depot in the boarded out van they bought for the purpose don't they? NOB.

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