tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467535.post8647132295492334826..comments2023-11-02T02:40:28.264-07:00Comments on They Got Me Over A Barrel: The Beer Blogger Bollocks of Britain Pontificate about Pubs J Mark Doddshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11800542445712331202noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467535.post-57777693847954592372013-12-16T11:31:18.319-08:002013-12-16T11:31:18.319-08:00No. I'm not going to waste any more time engag...No. I'm not going to waste any more time engaging with people like you who can't be bothered too open their eyes and look around. Go get a real job, go collect some glasses in a busy tied pub and ask the owners what they think of their margins and what they think of Ted Tuppen.<br />J Mark Doddshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11800542445712331202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467535.post-37391519479354984772013-12-16T11:31:00.590-08:002013-12-16T11:31:00.590-08:00Martyn YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING or ...Martyn YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING or WRITING ABOUT and I really cannot be bothered to help you any more. It seemed for a moment you were offering to meet someone to have a chat about it? Nothing happened. You're not interested, you're a denier, a make believer, a fantasist. You seem to think the world of capitalism is some pure economic market corrected snow white driven thing that arrives at the right answers for consumers through an immutable balance of supply and demand that's ordained by what? The atoms of the universe as dispersed by the gods of the pubco's. RUBBISH. The tied pub sector is an unregulated morass of medieval malpractice that's decimated Britain's traditions and heritage already. Naysayers like you fuel it and keep the status quo smouldering when the pubco's should have been extinguished long ago. I'd bet You probably think the beer tie is a good thing. A lovely old British tradition. Well it's not, it's a tool for abusing people's human rights.<br /><br />The pub industry was fat slack and lazy before the slick securitisation and debt merchants came along to modernise it after the beer orders opened the door into the sleepy pubs playground. All these people did, these wine drinking white collar bankers, accountants and money market casino chancers, was chuck vast amounts of other people's money into buying buildings at stupid prices, creating a spiral of pub inflation, that had anachronistic legally binding supply ties attached that potentially offering an eternal, limitless, guaranteed income stream that stretched far into the future which they saw they could manipulate to screw every last drop of profit out of the estates to pay down the debt, skim a load off the top for themselves before scooting off into the Med with a few tens of £ millions in their underpants to go and buy islands and yachts with, leaving everyone else to mop up the mess down the time line of pub history. That is the Great British Pubco Scam and people like you - and there's plenty of you, lazy sofa lounging beer bloggers who call themselves 'EXPERTS' who've shored up the lie for the last two decades.<br /><br />You pontificate from your positions of pomp at the high table of the pub industry - and no doubt get invited to plenty of shindigs and promos while the people who earn ALL the money that pays for ALL of those shindigs are behind the jump working their bollocks off to pay the rent, the debts they raised to improve their own pub business and to pay the pubco's double open market prices for supplies AND the interest payments on their pubco;s debts and the £500K a year salaries of the execs who are turning the pub sector into a wasteland in the name of progress, cartels and crony capitalism. The real hands on publicans are the last people whom people like you can be bothered to talk to openly and honestly about what is happening to them. You prefer to tell them what's happening from your filtered vision and when they say, rather inconveniently for your world perspective: 'It's not like that' You don't say 'Really? I'm interested, please tell me more', You say 'prove it'. Slack. <br /><br />It's simple Martyn, you never listen to the monkey, you just listen to the organ grinder talking down his oppression of the monkey: 'He loves dancing to my tune, I made him what he is'. <br /><br />You describe yourselves as 'experts' yet know only the most frothy top of the issues regarding the pub sector. You see pubs closing ALL over the country and say 'it's the market' and, seriously, you haven't got a bloody clue what you are talking about. You don't even know what the market IS. You've been hoodwinked hook line and sinker. If you really cared you'd do some research. It's all in the public domain but you completely ignore the facts of the situation preferring to sit back and congratulate yourself on how superior you are. It's pathetic.<br /><br />J Mark Doddshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11800542445712331202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467535.post-67504058708561990002013-12-16T09:12:42.538-08:002013-12-16T09:12:42.538-08:00Tremendous polemical rant, Mark, I congratulate yo...Tremendous polemical rant, Mark, I congratulate you for it. But once again you're telling me I have to find the evidence to back your assertions, without actually supplying them yourself. If there is hard, actual evidence that "Enterprise Inns, is staffed by bullies, liars and cheats", let's be seeing it: stop telling me I "don't know what I'm talking about" without actually supplying the evidence to back that up. I’ll be very happy to believe that Ted Tuppen is the spawn of the Devil, but only when you do something more than just claim it with no documents to prove it. I'm not trying to be antagonistic: I'm just fed up with people telling me I'm wrong without offering anything to back that up than bald assertion and hearsay claims about what has allegedly happened to other people.Martyn Cornellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16843357962176591317noreply@blogger.com